SpotNepal: How are you taking the agreement among eight parties?
Dr. Sundarmani: It’s a unique example for the world. There is no example in the world that the revolution group has done this type of accord. This has begun from Nepal.
SpotNepal: There are several agreements which have not been executed. In this scenario how can you say this agreement will be executed?
Dr. Sundarmani: This depends on mental and thought of people and depends on political leaders too. This agreement is based on 12, 8 and 5 points agreement so there is a hope on it.
SpotNepal: As you are a president of civil society as well political analyzer, which option; referendum or election of constituent assembly would you prefer for the final settlement of monarchy?
Dr. Sundarmani: We have assured people that this will be settled by the constituent assembly. But what we need to be clear that whoever comes by the election is we Nepali and we know the mental of Nepali leaders. In the last 12-13 we have seen leaders became insatiable towards position and they were bought by money. There were several collision government formed, but in new constitution this should not be repeated again. To stop these activities again we should h
ave the election of constituent assembly along with referendum to decide about king.
SpotNepal: But the decision for referendum has not made yet?
Dr. Sundarmani: There should be referendum. Some political parties especially Congress and Congress (D) are in favor of king. They can convert people before the election of constituent assembly because they have a time to play around. We can not fire elected person so only option to force them to throw away monarchy is referendum.
SpotNepal: What are the causes behind not participating civil society's leaders in an interim government?
Dr. Sundarmani: We never go for any positions especially for minister. We don't even want to go in parliament. But it does not mean that we are saying not to go on parliament because there should be independent people in parliament. Otherwise they will do whatever they like because they have rights. There should be people who are not affiliated with any profession, organizations or with any classes. Here I am not saying I will go and he will not. I can not go because I have to support for public voices and give pressure to the parliament. We should clearly describe our agenda before an election of constituent assembly
SpotNepal: In the peace accord, it is clearly stated that the monarchy will be thrown out by the first meeting of constituent assembly. How much do you believe on that?
Dr. Sundarmani: What we have seen in Jana Andolan 2 and civil war proves that there will be no more monarchy. It is impossible to have monarchy now. People are aware now. What I believe is members who will be elected for the constituent assembly will not also go for it. For that very reason there should be a referendum.
SpotNepal: How much is it secured to store arms of Maoists by their single lock system?
Dr. Sundarmani:
It is managing by the UN. After long time preparation they are coming because they have never believed there will be peace in Nepal. This will be a test to them. They are making their full effort to make it successful and we Nepalese are also equally involving on it. Maoists are also assured on it. There is only monarchy which can play around but we should be aware on it. Now we have a straight way but we must be careful.
SpotNepal: How were you taking (watching) the role of America and India to come up the final stage of accord between parties and Maoist?
Dr. Sundarmani: India is already in favor of Nepal. It is because of India, America is also positive on the movement. It has cleary stated that they will support even if Maoist participate in the government and keep continue aid too. For India it has a benefit, our Maoist's problem solution is their solution too. What I found while talking with some Indian leaders is they will fully support Nepali people's movement. There is only America who can play a villain role but UN has already supporting so America should support too.
SpotNepal: CPN UML is not satisfied with the total seats which it has got for an interim government. What do you say on it?
Dr. Sundarmani: In this present parliament UML is not a main party. If we compare with divided congress then it will come on first position. Now, this not a time to debate on seat and UML should not unconvinced too.
SpotNepal: Maoists are against the UML'S agenda of referendum and proportional election system. Initially they were demanding for referendum but now they are ready for constituent assembly only. What may be the reason?
Dr. Sundarmani: If Maoists want to make successful to their republic then referendum is the only option for them. They should hear all people if they want republic democracy.
SpotNepal: There is a rumor that Nepali politics will be polarized. What do you think on it?
Dr. Sundarmani: This is inevitable. Here we have a trend of polarization by position and greed. They can talk of their principle and philosophy but in the future they will not follow that. What set-up needed for democracy is ruling power and opponents and Nepali politics will be polarized on that format.
Do you have a hope for a proper leadership then?
Dr. Sundarmani: What I saw on Prachanda is he is not a leader only, but he has a statesmanship too. There was a lack of statesmanship. There were politician, and still they are but I saw statesmanship only in Prachanda. But can't say anything either it is only for seen or in reality as well. He has ended the civil war of Nepal. They came for peace; they came for 12 points, 8 points and 5 points agreements. Some tried to move away them again in the jungle. America, England and even some Nepalese tried that way. Political parties tried to stop them participating in an interim government. And some conspire against them not to participate in an election of constituent assembly. But they became stable on their peace stand. They treat equally with all parties, civil society and people. There is more then 75% favors go to Maoist for an election of constituent assembly, 20 % political parties and 5 % civil society. I honor BP Koirala, Madan Bhandari, Madav Nepal, Puahpa Lal Shrestha and Manamohan but I do like Prachand because I found statesmanship on him. But he is also being afraid thinking they may be in same bed reddish after participating in to the government.
SpotNepal: What will be the future of Nepal?
Dr. Sundarmani: Each racial group, class and community will have a role for new Nepal. If we don't care on it we will not be successful and if the country becomes weak it may lead in to war again which will be worse than present Maoist problem. Each one should get an equal opportunity in new Nepal. Lower and unprivileged people should get opportunities. If we can make this then foundation of Nepal will be strong. In democracy all will get equal opportunity. There should not be any type of racial discrimination, favoritism and relativism. Then Nepal will be developed.
by: Bimala Shretha